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Gods will is it a tight rope? From: Dean Seddon 12 Aug 2010 (17:32)
I have met so amny Christians who seem to be crippled by the inability to make a decision. Sometimes we can take alot of time waiting for God to give an answer to a question He didnt want us to ask?

What do others think? My view is God\'s will is not a \"once wrong move and its over\" scenario, but yet don\'t you find we live that way sometimes, hesitating making decisions because \"is it God?\" moments. I know there is a time and a place for waiting on God, but my view is God didn\'t make us Robots, he made us free thinking people with talents, gifts and abilities, surely He would want us to use those abilities for His Glory.

I would be interested to hear others thoughts on this....



OPPRESION DOES\'NT HELP  From: David Dawson 16 Aug 2010 (00:16)
Sadly most Christians do fail to make decisions for themselves in there Christian walk, I believe there are a few factors.

1] Many have come from poor backgrounds generational and even in the present.
Man has been under oppression from gentry i.e. employers poor wages work conditions and landlords with dickensian style housing, non existent sanitary conditions, ill health, alcohol, mortality and dare I say the church.
This obviously ebbed away over the generations, through the down fall of the Great in Britain the world wars, travel and communications but I still saw my grandfather \'top his hat\' to someone of a higher peer group in the 60\'s.
SATANS PLOY IS TO KEEP MAN UNDER OPPRESSION, UNEDUCATED, UNHEALTHY, POOR AND IGNORANT FROM THE LIVING WORD OF GOD.

2]
The traditional church, inclusive of new Methodism, Baptist, evangelical, and sadly Pentecostal.
They have used unwittingly similar tactics as my last comment made above.
They have followed same strategy. If a man was not schooled properly or just from the labourers stock was never invited to do other than menial tasks in church.
Most churches demand folk to be members of the church and have been faithful for 2/4yrs, even though they are faithful, devoted to the body of Christ and are givers and can virtually walk on water cos\' the Lord has filled them with Holy Ghost gifts. \'So many times I’ve heard there not ready yet or sit them down for a while until they quieten down some\'
This applies even to the para churches, they may allow the man to be an usher if he was found to be a giver or go round for the offerings, and the bonus for this man is he may have the privilege of going around with the bread and fruit juice [sacraments].
The revivals in Wales was wonderful revival of the Lord, thousands were getting saved simple miners and farm labourers were moving in the gifts of the Holy Ghost., what stopped that work, the traditional church! They came upon this spirit filled men and they eventually encouraged this men to go to bible college and this simple men flagged under the subtle pressure from the learned. That is why churches all over Wales are empty; they went back into the old ways. [See comment para 1]

3rd]
The lack of Holy Ghost teaching and discipleship.
Most churches run allsorts of bible studies from the Spirit-less Alpha course to churches own programmes. Most are probably good teachings and good studies.
In my experience majority of what ive seen and done have been useful.
But its a rare one that teaches the folk that they are minister*s as much as the pastors, five fold ministries, deacons, elders [team leaders not included non biblical] *[2Cor6v4]

I believe this where the ministry/pastors don’t want to take there people down, because most don’t want to lose control, or find the tea lady has been gifted with healing, or there are others that God has given different gifts ministries. [Rom 12v3]
The pastors/teachers fail to encourage there people that they need to seek there gifting there calling, there vision; there is no teaching on how to use these gifts.
They may not be great orators or the best givers, or musicians, or even young people. They need to be shown how; if the minister doesn’t know how then they must invite someone they know who has that experience of gifting.
Sadly most of the people want platform ministry and that’s not feasible because God has put a man of God to minister to the folk and church times are about 3hrs Sunday morning 2 hrs bible studies and if you got 3/4 people want to preach, Gods word will never come forth from the appointed man.
Again, I assume this due to lack of Bible College teaching, they don’t teach the pastors what to do in these situations.

The simple remedy is to encourage and build up the people in there gifting, talents and ministry’s and encourage them to go in the highways and by ways, this where the Lord sent His disciples.
This learning area is where there confidence grows this where they may make decisions and mistakes and learn from them.
I BELIEVE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO BELIEVE THAT GOD THE FATHER HAS GIVEN THE GIFTS WITHOUT REPENTANCE. [Rom11v29]
THEY WILL HAVE HOLY GHOST ASSURANCE TO MAKE DECISIONS KNOWING THAT IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE GOD IS JUST AND FAITHFUL TO FORGIVE ALL THERE SIN. [1John1v9],
Luk 4:18-19 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

moving.........hearing Gods voice.  From: maryann 16 Aug 2010 (06:27)
yes! thats an intr. subject, and one that we often meet in the service of wanting to follow Gods voice. When we live for HIM, HE gives us thoughts, and we just have to take the 1st step even when we are undecided, and its for sure, that if we take the wrong step, HE will show you along the way. You need never be afraid, if youre really living for God, HE will close doors and open doors, Often we take some roads that end up wrong, but i think this is a road that teaches us so many things and gives us lots of discernment and wisdom, so when we get off thst road, we find out the other road is wide open and everything gets settled, because then, you have learnt to depend upon the LORD alone and not other people.....will write more about this later, (personal exp.) but its a bit early now....

an answer to deciding  From: June Ritchie 11 May 2011 (22:27)
Psalm 37 V5; Commit thy way unto the Lord; trust also in him and he will bring it to pass. because we dont want to disappoint him by doing the wrong thing we do hesitate sometimes but if we walk scripturally we can be clear in our spirits in what way He wants us to go. One thing we should know is that God always has a plan for us as his servants and as we wait on Him and serve him loyally he makes it plain in His time. what a comfort it is to know we are walking in the blessing of God on a day to day basis even on days that seem so mundane somehow He moves to make them speciall and stand out as an \'I love you situation\' who can possibly be discouraged by that.

TRUST IN GOD  From: TREFLYN JONES 12 May 2011 (08:27)
We learn as we progress along the path that God has prepared for us. I have met and spoken with many people who have questioned the logic of some of the decisions that I have made. Decisons based on direction and the assuarnce that this is what God wants me to do.

I have no desire for fame or fortune, I have been there and got the tee shirt. I live to serve the living God that goes before us in all situations, who looks ahead of our decisions and guides us along the path that he has laid out for us for our lives. I have to check myself to make sure that my decisions are based upon what I have received from God.

I stopped being a man pleaser a long time ago, but am mindful that we need to encourage others who have yet to take that step of faith to do so. We need to be man lovers as we are instructed to love our neighbours as ourselves. We are also battered along the way by the secular upon our lives so we have to be on guard at all times to remember that we are ambassadors for Jesus who went before us to the cross and rose on the third day so we can have life and have it more abundanty and walk that narrow path to our destiny according to God\'s will for our lives.

May I encourage everyone who reads this to understand the importance of doing what God has asked you to do.

Jeremiah 29:11
Ephesians 2:8-10
Epesians 4:11-16
Romans 12:1-2

Treflyn Jones
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MAKING A DECISION  From: maryann 13 May 2011 (07:17)
yes, sometimes its very difficult to make a decision....and i think its times when you have to slow down bit and wait, we are often in too much hurry.....GOD wants us to take more time with HIM...the more mature we get, the more HE will leave it to us to make decisions, and no fear, HE has promised never to leave us or forsake us, to be with us all the days of our lives......OFTEN in these decision times, people come into your life, and youre not quite sure if that is part of Gods plan...take time, test it, if they bring you closer to your \"destiny\" its good and maturing you.....if not...you learn to discern more....thats also part of maturing....maybe you can help others to lean on to JESUS and get stronger....we often have a tendency to think to much of ourselves in situations like this, forgetting that the main purpose is to help one another. Dont fret, if a wrong decision is made, its part of maturity, growing in what we still need to get stronger in...GOD wants us strong and secure in HIM , HE will always lead you on...even when wrong decisions are made, its part of the plan......you learn from your mistakes.....GOD IS LOVE, LOVE IS A PERSON, NOT A FEELING, ONLY GOD CAN GIVE THAT REAL LOVE THAT NEVER LEAVES YOU NOR FORSAKES YOU, SO BE SURE HE IS THERE FOR YOU EVEN IN YOUR WRONG DECISION MAKING, IF YOUR HEARTS INTENTION IS TO SERVE HIM.

God\'s Will  From: Dean Seddon 13 May 2011 (08:35)
It\'s great to be in that freedom, through scripture in knowing that God has a plan for our lives and that the plan has been almost to some degree, pre-programmed into us when he created and put together the essence of who we are.

I think we all need to trust God more and believe His Word when it says, He\'s given us everything for life and godliness, He\'s the author and finisher of our faith, Committ our plans to the Lord and they will succeed.

Treflyn, in the short time I have known you, your honesty, faith and generosity of heart has been such and encouragement. I wanted to share this because when i first discovered TaskJesus, I was working through quite a difficult set of events and found this place to be a place of encouragement, hope and friendship. I pray that this will continue to Thrive and the work of Task Jesus will grow.


knowing Gods will  From: June Ritchie 28 May 2011 (10:22)
Theres nothing more satisfying than being in the plan of God and having full assurance that we have teamed up with God in it. First comes the desire to serve and second has to come the surrendering up of oneself to Him to get it done right. when trials hit (as they can) one does sometimes doubt a little and wonder \'did I get it wrong?\' but the fact is that if its Gods plan and we do it correctly we will have favour in every aspect of it. and also God will see those doubts and if they are misplaced he finds ways to reassure us. He doesn\'t leave us up in the air for a long time in anxiety its not His way. Take CT Studd and Hudson Taylor these guys had a hot seat to sit in for years, they still pressed on to the call in their spirit knowing it was God\'s plan. We dont have to consider quitting because things start to falter. What am I trying to say here. These men were entirely sold out for God they wanted what He wanted and were ready to die to achieve. To give it their all! They are inspiring to those of us who meet hindrances and spur us on in the midst of doubts! They had surrendered themselves up to His will and we need to do the same. Think sometimes when God says go east we say we want to go West and risk missing it
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